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Post by Source on May 18, 2018 18:03:06 GMT -5
If George Washington were alive today, would you vote for him to be our next President? Why or why not?
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Post by bower8899 on May 18, 2018 23:47:29 GMT -5
No, I wouldn't vote anyone from that time period into office
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Post by Source on May 19, 2018 1:10:48 GMT -5
No, I wouldn't vote anyone from that time period into office Why is that a factor?
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Post by bower8899 on May 19, 2018 3:45:04 GMT -5
No, I wouldn't vote anyone from that time period into office Why is that a factor? The man owned slaves. He and the other founding fathers recognized that our values would change and thus that our government would change with them. They're social views would be incompatible with anyone besides the farthest right. Which is fine, they were of course liberal and progressive for their time, but for our time, they'd be backwards
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osouless
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Post by osouless on May 19, 2018 11:58:12 GMT -5
I agree with Bower here. He was a great president in the 18th century, not so much the 21st.
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Post by Skinner on May 21, 2018 17:07:54 GMT -5
No, I wouldn't vote for George Washington. He was a great Founding Father, but his only redeeming quality as president was to install a tradition of a limited presidency. Other than that foundational legacy, he was a lackluster president who appeased the British with the Jay Treaty.
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Post by PeaceKeepaGirl on May 21, 2018 21:10:05 GMT -5
I think this brings up an interesting question... is today's liberal tomorrow's conservative? If we put our more progressive founding fathers in the context of today's society, would their liberal ideals lead them to see the errors of their ways and support more small-d democratic values and civil rights for blacks, women, LGBT, etc.? Or would their views be too grounded in the logic of their time? Curious what people think.
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Post by osouless on May 22, 2018 11:41:12 GMT -5
I think this brings up an interesting question... is today's liberal tomorrow's conservative? If we put our more progressive founding fathers in the context of today's society, would their liberal ideals lead them to see the errors of their ways and support more small-d democratic values and civil rights for blacks, women, LGBT, etc.? Or would their views be too grounded in the logic of their time? Curious what people think. Today's liberal is undoubtedly tomorrow's conservative. You tell any founding father that we had elected a black man to be President and i would say 99/100 would have heart attacks then and there. That's not to say all of them would oppose it per se, if they could wrap their heads around time travel that is lol. Perhaps John Adams would be ok with the progress women have made in this country. Maybe Alexander Hamilton would be cool with LGBT rights. It's hard to say, but i think on the whole of it each generation pushes forth new liberal/democratic values that older generations generally push against.
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Post by TheSpookyGhost on May 23, 2018 21:00:52 GMT -5
If George Washington could see the state of America today, he would have begged Great Britain to take us back in.
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